They examined Breivik in a different way to Husby and Sørheim by looking at the European extreme right. They also recorded their conversations with Breivik something that the first experts did not do.

The experts alternated giving evidence, with Tørrisen taking the stand first, and began by describing the methodology surrounding the report.

The Norwegian Board of Forensic Medicine has not passed the report by Tørrisen and Aspaas, unlike with the first report that found Breivik insane.

However, both the defence and counsel for the bereaved support the findings of the second report.

Aspaas described the first meeting that was held with Breivik saying that he was friendly and polite. Aspaas also mentions that Breivik’s fear of being killed seems reasonable.

The expert also told the court how Breivik was calm when he returned to Utøya and explained to the police in detail how he had killed 69 people.

Tørrisen told the court that Beivik has always dealt on the other side of the law and used examples from Breivik’s early childhood.

He said that even if Breivik meets you with grandiosity, it does not mean he has grandiose psychosis.

The experts discussed Breivik’s family including his mother and father. They also explained how Breivik’s sister could not understand how he could sit and play computer games all day.

Aspaas said that all political parties have distanced themselves from Breivik since he committed his attacks. However, Breivik claims he has received messages of political support.

Aspaas and Tørrisen explained that Breivik does not have any remorse or regrets but did feel grief for the families of the dead. Despite, this he was proud he carried out his attack.

Tørrisen also told the court that he had held a 20-minute conversation with Breivik on the 5th May to discuss how he was feeling about the trial. Tørrisen determined that Breivik’s mental state was the same as when he had been observed previously.

The expert said he does not see Breivik as delusional and does not believe he suffers from schizophrenia.

Tørrisen also says it is unlikely that Breivk suffers from any other disorder such as anxiety as there are no symptoms present.

Tørrisen explains that personality disturbances can overlap and that making an accurate diagnosis can take some time.

The experts concluded that Breivik is narcissistic explaining how Breivik believed he did not need any education and considered himself to be intelligent and handsome.

They describe anti-social personality disorder and what criteria of this dosprder Breivik fulfils e.g. callous to other people’s emotions, lack of empathy, irresponsible and ignores duties, possesses superficial charm.

Tørrisen dismisses the diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome and says that there is a high risk of future violence with Breivik.

The topic of the Knight’s Templar is once again introduced with Tørrisen claiming that it does not exist in the form Breivik describes.

The experts describe to the court why Breivik is not psychotic such as not having serious thought disturbances and keeping in touch with friends right up until the 22nd July.

The experts explain that they have not seen or heard anything during the trial that makes them change their mind over their report.

They say that they did not assess him as psychotic but as holding extreme political views.

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